Fourteen months. That is how long Mesa/Boogie built the Mark IIC+ before shutting the line down and moving on to something they thought was better. Fewer than three thousand amplifiers left the Lagunitas workshop with that hand-inked plus sign scrawled in black marker above the power cord entry. Nobody at the factory thought they were making history. The Mark III was already deep in development before the IIC+ shipped its first unit. Internally the “+” was not even a model — it was just the latest tweak to the C, undocumented in any catalogue, unmentioned in any advertisement, a shop-floor revision that happened to be the best thing the company ever did.
Then Master of Puppets came out and the world caught up.
Forty years later, original Mark IIC+ heads and combos are the most valuable amplifiers Mesa/Boogie has ever produced, changing hands at prices that make vintage Marshall dealers blink. Steve Lukather’s Coliseum went for twenty thousand dollars. Mesa spent three years reverse-engineering their own amplifier before daring to reissue it in December 2024. Neural DSP built a plugin around it. John Petrucci got the company’s first-ever unlimited-production signature amp built on its circuit. And an obscure factory modification of it — the IIC++, born from a phone call by Dio’s guitarist — became the single most mythologised piece of metal gear on earth, complete with a breakfast cereal sticker.
This is the story of how a fourteen-month production run became the reference standard for high gain, and what actually happens inside the box when you plug in.
Before The Plus: How Mesa Got Here
To understand the IIC+ you have to understand what Randall Smith had already invented, because the IIC+ is not a new idea — it is the final, most refined execution of an idea Mesa had been chasing since 1969.
The original Boogie was a hot-rodded Fender Princeton, a prank amplifier built to embarrass a friend, that Carlos Santana famously played through and declared “really boogies.” What made it revolutionary was not the volume. It was the cascading gain preamp: multiple gain stages wired in series, each one spilling its output into the next, so that distortion was generated entirely in the preamp rather than by driving the output tubes into clipping. Dave Hunter, in The Guitar Amp Handbook, describes the result as “sizzling, ultra-saturated preamp distortion.” Every high-gain amplifier built since — the Soldano SLO-100, the Peavey 5150, the Mesa Dual Rectifier, everything from Friedman to Revv — descends from that architecture. In 1969, nothing else on the market worked that way.
The Mark II arrived in late 1978 and added a fifth gain stage as part of a switchable Lead mode. This was the industry’s first amplifier with footswitchable mode switching, functionally a two-channel amp before anyone was calling them that. The Mark IIB added the industry’s first buffered effects loop. The IIB had two annoying flaws — a loud pop when you kicked between modes, and a noisy reverb circuit — and the Mark IIC arrived in 1983 to fix them.
Randall Smith still was not happy. The effects loop implementation bothered him, and the reverb needed more work. Around this time he had hired an engineer named Doug West, and further development of the IIC became a joint project between West and Mike Bendinelli, who had been Smith’s very first employee hire and who would go on to become the company’s chief tech for the next four decades.
Late Winter, 1983: The Boss Is In Germany
Here is the part of the story that guitarists love, and it appears to be true.
According to research compiled by Edward P. Morgan through direct conversations with West and Bendinelli — published on the Boogie Board forum and reported by Dave Hunter in Vintage Guitar — the pair dug into the Mark IIC lead circuit in late winter of 1983, while Randall Smith was in Germany attending the Musikmesse trade show.
Bendinelli, the engineer, pushed the gain further and further. West asked for it brighter. Bendinelli obliged, adding another gain stage to the already-toothsome cascading lead circuit and revoicing the preamp for a more aggressive character, tighter low end and sharper midrange focus. They also fixed the loop — rerouting it in a way that improved the amp’s dynamics and feel — and sorted the reverb properly.
Smith came home, listened, and approved. The revised amplifier went into production in February 1984, indicated by nothing more than a “+” drawn in black marker on the back of the chassis above the power cord. Mesa never announced it. There was no press release, no catalogue page, no new model number. It was simply the current C.
Production ceased in March 1985, roughly fourteen months later, when the Mark III took over. Total output: fewer than 3,000 units, including just 56 of the 300-watt Coliseum variant. For several years afterward Mesa invited IIC owners to send their amps in and had the “+” mod performed free of charge — they only started charging when demand for the modification began disrupting production of other models. This is why the surviving population is larger and messier than the build numbers suggest, and why provenance matters so much on the used market.
The Configuration Maze
The IIC+ was not a model so much as a menu. Smith’s team custom-built each one in Lagunitas around a base platform nicknamed the “Super Sixty” — a 60-watt head or 1×12 combo — and the buyer ticked boxes:
- 100-watt power section with SimulClass
- Reverb
- Five-band graphic EQ
- Exotic hardwood cabinet — koa, bubinga, walnut
- Wicker cane grille
- Upgraded speakers — Electro-Voice EVM-12L or Altec, on combos
- Export power transformer for players touring outside North America
- 300-watt Coliseum power section for arena work
The two most-requested builds were 60 or 100 watts with both reverb and graphic EQ, which Mesa denoted with the chassis codes SRG and HRG respectively. Those two letters strings are worth memorising if you are shopping — they are shorthand for the configuration most players actually want.
Specifications
| Specification | Original Mark IIC+ (1984–85) | Mark IIC+ Reissue (2024–present) | Mark IIC++ Limited (2025) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Production window | February 1984 – March 1985 (14 months) | December 2024 – current | July 2025, 200 units worldwide |
| Units built | Fewer than 3,000 (incl. 56 Coliseum) | Ongoing production | 200 |
| Preamp tubes | Five 12AX7/7025 | Five 12AX7 | Five 12AX7 |
| Power tubes | Four 6L6GC (SimulClass builds pair 6L6 + EL34) | Four 6L6GC | Four 6L6GC |
| Rectifier | Solid state | Solid state | Solid state |
| Output | 60W or 100W base; ~80W RMS SimulClass on typical builds, switchable to ~15W Class A; 300W Coliseum option | 75W SimulClass / 25W Class A | 75W SimulClass / 25W Class A |
| Channels | Single channel, two footswitchable modes (Rhythm / Lead) | Single channel, two footswitchable modes | Single channel, two footswitchable modes |
| Front panel | Volume 1, Treble, Bass, Middle, Master 1, Lead Drive, Lead Master — six of seven knobs push/pull | Identical control set with push/pull functions | Identical control set |
| Rear panel | Presence, Reverb (when fitted), effects loop, slave out | Presence, Reverb, FX loop, Slave Out with level | Presence, Reverb, FX loop, Slave Out |
| Graphic EQ | Optional five-band, post-gain, three-way assign toggle | Footswitchable five-band, standard | Footswitchable five-band, standard |
| Construction | Hand-wired, built to order in Lagunitas, California | Hand-wired | Hand-wired |
| Combo speaker | Optional EVM-12L or Altec upgrade | 12″ Celestion C90 | Head only |
| Price | Options-dependent; period base pricing well under $1,000 | $3,599 head / combo listed $2,999–$3,899 depending on retailer | £3,899 (US price TBC at launch) |
| 2026 used market | ~$5,000 for a basic 60W combo to $15,000+; Lukather’s Coliseum sold for $20,000 | — | Sold out at launch |
What The Controls Actually Do
The IIC+ front panel looks deceptively simple: one row of seven knobs. It is not simple. Six of those seven knobs have push/pull functions, and the amplifier’s entire personality lives in the interaction between the gain controls, the master controls and those pulled switches.
Rhythm Mode
- Volume 1 — input gain and tone. Turn it clockwise and the amp gets not just louder but darker and fatter. This is a tone control disguised as a volume control, and misunderstanding it is the number-one reason people dial in a bad IIC+ sound.
- Pull Bright (on Volume 1) — extends treble.
- Treble / Pull Shift — the pulled position cuts treble in Lead mode only. This is a change from the plain IIC, where the shift affected both modes, and it is one of the audible fingerprints of a real “+”.
- Bass / Pull Shift — extends bass early in the signal path.
- Middle — no push/pull.
- Master 1 / Pull Deep — mode output volume; the pulled function extends bass later in the path. On a plain IIC this knob is labelled “Gain Boost.” The panel legend is one of the cheapest external tells there is.
Lead Mode
- Lead Drive — gain and tone; increases treble as you turn it up.
- Pull Lead — toggles modes manually.
- Lead Master — mode output volume.
- Pull Bright (on Lead Master) — extends Lead-mode treble.
Two Structural Facts That Explain Everything
The three-band EQ sits pre-gain. Treble, Bass and Middle are not shaping the finished distorted tone; they are shaping what gets fed into the gain stages. This is why the bass control on a IIC+ is so treacherous. Guitar World flagged it directly: the pre-gain bass control can be “very boomy and woofy” if not kept low when you are in Lead mode. Look at any published IIC+ metal setting and you will find the bass knob somewhere between 1 and 2. That is not an error. Bass in front of a cascading gain circuit turns into flub, not weight.
The five-band graphic EQ sits post-gain and is assigned with a three-way toggle — bypassed, both modes, or Lead only. This is where the actual tone-shaping happens. The famous Boogie “V” curve — boost 80 Hz, boost 6.6 kHz, scoop 750 Hz hard — is a post-distortion sculpt, which is why it works and why doing the same thing with a pre-gain tone stack does not sound remotely similar. If you want to approximate this in front of a different amplifier, a Boss GE-7 in the effects loop gets you closer than anything you can do on the front panel.
The single most-cited drawback is real: the three-band EQ is shared between both modes. You cannot have an ideal clean and an ideal lead at the same time. Every IIC+ setting is a negotiation. Players solved it by assigning the graphic EQ to Lead only, using the pull-shifts to redistribute treble between modes, or simply accepting that one mode is the priority and the other is a compromise.
SimulClass, And Why It Is Not A Gimmick
The optional SimulClass power section runs the four output tubes in a hybrid arrangement: two tubes wired Class A, two wired Class A/B, working simultaneously — hence the name. On original amps this often meant a mixed complement, two 6L6 and two EL34, though builds varied. Original SimulClass amps typically measured around 80 watts RMS and switched down to roughly 15 watts Class A. The 2024 reissue standardises this at 75 watts SimulClass, 25 watts Class A, all on 6L6GC.
What it buys you musically: the Class A pair contributes even-order harmonic warmth and a softer, more compressed feel; the A/B pair contributes headroom, punch and low-end authority. Running both at once gives you an output stage that has the bloom of a small amp and the grip of a big one. Kicking down to Class A only is not just a volume reduction — it is a genuinely different amplifier, softer at the attack, quicker to compress, and far more forgiving in a room.
Kirk Hammett’s own description of what Metallica valued gets at the same thing from the player’s side: “Those Simul-Classes had three gain stages and a parametric EQ built in. The great thing about that amp is how they cascaded the gain stages, there’s a particular order that you could run the gain stages to get a certain sound. And that’s what we liked about them.” (Note: Hammett’s “parametric EQ” is a slip — the onboard EQ is the five-band graphic. The parametric units in Metallica’s rig were outboard Aphex EQF-2s in the loop. More on that below.)
Famous Players — And Three Claims That Do Not Survive Checking
The Mark IIC+ has a genuinely enormous verified roster, which makes it all the more irritating that the standard internet list for this amp is contaminated. Three names that appear on nearly every IIC+ roundup belong to other Mesa amplifiers entirely, and one of them is chronologically impossible. Let us do the corrections first, because they are instructive.
Correction 1: Carlos Santana — Wrong Amp, Wrong Decade
Carlos Santana‘s association with Mesa/Boogie is total, foundational and beyond dispute. It is also with the Mark I, not the IIC+. Santana toured with Mark I amps in 1972–73 and his endorsement is the reason the company exists in its current form; the “Santana wood” snakeskin and hardwood Mark I remains one of the most famous amplifiers ever built. But the Mark IIC+ did not exist until February 1984 — eleven or twelve years after the amps that made Santana a Boogie evangelist. Listing him as a IIC+ player is a category error where an entire brand’s history has been collapsed onto its most expensive model. Santana belongs in the Mark I story, and the Mark I story is the reason the IIC+ was possible.
Correction 2: Larry Carlton — Also The Mark I
Same problem, same era. Larry Carlton‘s tone on “Room 335” is one of the definitive Boogie sounds in recorded music — that fat, singing, sustaining lead voice out of a 335 into a small hardwood combo with a wicker cane grille. But “Room 335” was released in 1978. Carlton’s era-defining Boogies are hardwood Mark I cabinets. He is not a IIC+ player in any meaningful sense; he is the reason a generation of session guitarists took Boogies seriously in the first place, which is a bigger claim, not a smaller one.
Correction 3: Andy Timmons — Mesa, But Lone Star
Andy Timmons is a committed Mesa/Boogie player and always has been, but his documented rig is built on Lone Star heads — two of them, one loaded with EL34s and one with 6L6s, running in stereo into Rectifier 2×12 cabs with Vintage 30s. He has also been photographed with a Stiletto Deuce. The Lone Star is about as far from the IIC+ as Mesa’s catalogue gets: a clean-forward, Fender-derived, headroom-first design. Timmons is a Mesa artist. He is not a Mark IIC+ artist, and putting him on this list tells you nothing useful about either the player or the amp.
Verified: Metallica — And A Chronology Worth Getting Straight
This one is real, it is the biggest thing that ever happened to the amp, and the details are more interesting than the legend.
James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett did not use standard IIC+ heads. They used IIC++ amps — the off-menu factory modification described below — and Hetfield’s, decorated with a Crunch Berries breakfast cereal sticker, became the most famous amplifier in thrash metal. Hetfield, speaking to MusicRadar around the release of Hardwired… To Self-Destruct:
“For me it’s got to be percussive. It’s got to push air, what we call bark. It’s got to bark. But I don’t want it really abrasive, so any fake fuzz to me really just takes away from the sound… The Crunch Berries amp that we’ve used, I think, since Ride The Lightning on or at least Master Of Puppets for sure. That Mesa/Boogie C++ [Simul-Class] is a very integral part of the sound still.”
Note Hetfield’s own hedge, and then check it. Ride the Lightning was recorded in Copenhagen in February–March 1984 — the IIC+ had been in production for a matter of weeks, and the “++” modification did not exist until 1985. Hetfield gets there himself with “or at least Master of Puppets for sure,” and the reporting supports the later date: the Crunch Berries head was acquired around March 1985, arriving in time for Master of Puppets and the Ozzy Osbourne support tour that followed. The amp is not on Ride the Lightning. It is on everything after.
Hammett’s assessment is the one that gets quoted for a reason: “They made very few of those Boogies and we happened to get a few. And those amps, along with EMG pickups were defining our sound. They enabled us to get the sound that we needed to get across. If it wasn’t for those Mesa/Boogie amps and EMG pickups, I don’t know how much further we would have got with just Marshalls.”
The part almost everyone leaves out: Hetfield and Hammett ran Aphex EQF-2 semi-parametric EQs and Aphex CX-1 Compressor/Gates in the effects loop. That is not seasoning — that is a substantial share of the recorded Master of Puppets tone, and it is the reason a stock IIC+ into a 4×12 does not sound quite like the record no matter how carefully you copy the knob positions. The IIC+ built the foundation; the outboard rack built the finish. Any honest attempt at that tone has to account for both.
Verified: John Petrucci — The Deepest Relationship Of Any Player
John Petrucci has called the IIC+ his “holy grail” amplifier and has kept it at the centre of his rig with Dream Theater for the better part of four decades. Mesa’s response was the JP-2C, released in 2016 — the company’s first non-limited signature model, and the only signature amp Mesa has ever built as a permanent catalogue item.
The JP-2C exists because of a specific complaint Petrucci had about the original: the IIC+ is a one-row, two-mode amp where both modes share a single EQ. Petrucci wanted three genuinely independent channels — one clean, two lead — and two assignable graphic EQs so each voice could be shaped separately. He got both, along with an alternate “Shred” voicing on the higher-gain channels, MIDI control, a headphone output and Mesa’s CabClone speaker-emulated DI. Nick Guppy’s MusicRadar review confirmed the obvious point: the JP-2C is a IIC+ with the compromises engineered out.
Petrucci’s relationship with the platform has continued — Mesa marked forty years of partnership with a JP-2C 1×12 combo, billed as the most aggressive Mark IIC+ variant they have built. If you want IIC+ tone with modern routing and none of the vintage anxiety, the JP-2C is not an alternative to the original. It is the sanctioned continuation of it.
Verified: The Los Angeles Session Mafia
This is the half of the IIC+ story that metal fans consistently underrate, and it is arguably the larger half by volume of recorded music.
In the mid-eighties the IIC+ became the default amplifier of the first-call Los Angeles studio scene. Steve Lukather, Mike Landau and Dean Parks — three players whose combined session credits run into the thousands — all used IIC+ amps on hundreds of hit records. If you listened to American pop radio between roughly 1984 and 1990, you heard a Mark IIC+ constantly without ever knowing it. Lukather’s own Coliseum-spec amp later sold for twenty thousand dollars, which tells you something about how the market values that lineage.
What the session players wanted was not the metal voice at all. It was the amp’s other half: smooth, singing, heavily compressed lead tones with enormous sustain, plus a clean mode Dave Hunter accurately puts “largely in the big Fender camp.” The IIC+ could deliver a lead sound that sat cleanly in a dense mix without eating the whole midrange, and it did so at manageable volume because the distortion was preamp-generated. For studio work in the era of the isolation booth, that was decisive.
Verified: Prince
Prince adopted the IIC+ for the 1984 Purple Rain tour and kept using it afterwards. This is the single best rebuttal to the idea that the IIC+ is a metal amp. The guitar tone on that tour — biting, articulate, capable of going from clean funk chording to a screaming sustained lead within a bar — is the same circuit Metallica used to record Master of Puppets eighteen months later, dialled differently.
Verified: Satriani, Schon, Dharma, Springsteen
Joe Satriani, Neal Schon of Journey, Buck Dharma of Blue Öyster Cult and Bruce Springsteen all appear in the documented IIC+ roster. Springsteen is the outlier that makes the point best: the amplifier’s reputation is entirely built on saturation, and one of its notable users is a player whose recorded guitar tone is mostly clean-to-edge-of-breakup. That range is real. The IIC+ is a wide-bandwidth amplifier that happens to have the best high-gain lead voice of its generation bolted onto the side of it.
Verified: Vivian Campbell — The Man Who Caused The IIC++
Vivian Campbell does not usually make IIC+ lists, and he should headline them. In 1985, playing with Dio, Campbell asked Mesa what could be done to get more gain and more heft out of his IIC+. Mike Bendinelli engineered what became known internally as the “Metal Mod”: another gain stage on top of the IIC+’s already-extended cascade, plus a further tightening of the low end. That is the IIC++. One phone call from a working guitarist created the single most sought-after amplifier variant in metal history.
The IIC++: Crunch Berries, Twenty Amps, And A Forty-Year Wait
Mesa never offered the “++” as a product. They performed it on request, for artists and for anyone who knew to ask. Doug West — now Tone Lab director at Gibson and Mesa/Boogie — put the scale of it plainly: “Over time, this mod, which was never an official model, logged a healthy list of A-level artist recordings. This kept our Chief Tech and IIC+ guru, Mike Bendinelli, busy for decades doing the mod for customers who’d heard of its legendary aggression for metal styles and sent their used IIC+s to him for an update.”
Mesa has estimated that roughly twenty IIC++ conversions were done in the original era, several of which ended up with Hetfield and Hammett. Because Hetfield’s carried a Cap’n Crunch Crunch Berries sticker, the modification is now sometimes just called the Crunch Berries mod, which is a spectacularly undignified name for the circuit that defined eighties metal.
What the “++” actually changes matters: the additional gain stage affects only the cascading high-gain Lead path. The clean mode is untouched. A IIC++ is not a different amplifier — it is a IIC+ with one more rung on the gain ladder and a firmer bottom end, and every non-Lead behaviour is identical. That is a useful thing to know before you pay a premium for one.
In July 2025, forty years after Campbell’s phone call, Mesa finally released the Mark IIC++ as a production model: 200 units worldwide, £3,899, aesthetically identical to the IIC+ apart from a badge on the grille cloth. It sold out effectively on announcement.
The 2024 Reissue: What Mesa Actually Built
Mesa spent three years developing the reissue before it launched in December 2024 as a head and a 1×12 combo. Given how much revenue the company could have earned by shipping something approximate in year one, three years of development is a meaningful signal about how seriously they took it.
The reissue is hand-wired, runs 75 watts SimulClass or 25 watts Class A from four 6L6GCs with five 12AX7s up front, and carries the original control set intact — Volume 1, Treble, Bass, Middle, Master 1, Lead Drive, Lead Master, with the push/pull functions preserved. Footswitchable five-band graphic EQ and tube-driven spring reverb are standard rather than optional. Rear panel keeps Presence, Reverb, the effects loop and a Slave Out with its own level control. Head price is $3,599; the 1×12 combo, fitted with a Celestion C90, lists between roughly $2,999 and $3,899 depending on retailer.
Dave Hunter’s Vintage Guitar verdict, testing it with an ES-355 and a Telecaster into 1×12 and 2×12 cabs, is worth quoting in full because it is unusually honest for a gear review: “There will be naysayers, and of course many of the components used to build the originals 40 years ago are no longer available, but this reissue offers an impressively authentic dose of the IIC+ magic.” And: “No matter the builder or model, the latest version of 40-year-old amp design will sound a little different.”
That is the correct framing. The reissue is not a molecular clone and no reissue of anything ever is — the carbon comp resistors, the specific transformer laminations and the tube stock of 1984 are simply gone. What it is, at $3,599 against a $10,000-plus vintage market with unknown service history, is the sane purchase for anyone who wants to play this amplifier rather than own one.
Tone Recipes
1. James Hetfield Rhythm (published)
Volume 1: 9 · Treble: 7 · Bass: 1.75 · Middle: 4 · Master 1: 4.5 · Lead Drive: 6 · Lead Master: 3 · Presence: 2 · Graphic EQ: In · Full Power
Graphic EQ: 80 Hz +4 dB · 240 Hz −2 dB · 750 Hz −8 dB · 2.2 kHz −2 dB · 6.6 kHz +4 dB
The classic Boogie “V”. Note that Volume 1 is at 9 and Lead Drive is only at 6 — the saturation is coming from the front of the circuit, not the lead stage, which is why it stays percussive rather than fizzy. Bass at 1.75 is not a typo.
2. Steve Lukather Solo (published)
Volume 1: 5 · Treble: 6 · Bass: 1 · Middle: 7 · Master 1: 3 · Lead Drive: 5 · Lead Master: 4 · Presence: 3 · Graphic EQ: In · ½ Power
Graphic EQ: 80 Hz −4 dB · 240 Hz +2 dB · 750 Hz +8 dB · 2.2 kHz +4 dB · 6.6 kHz 0 dB
The exact inverse of the Hetfield curve — 750 Hz boosted eight decibels instead of cut eight — and it is the single most useful demonstration of what the graphic EQ is for. Same amplifier, same gain structure, opposite EQ, and you get a lead voice that cuts through a dense pop mix instead of a rhythm tone that sits underneath one.
3. Clean Rhythm, “Big Fender”
Volume 1: 3–4 (push Bright in) · Treble: 6 · Bass: 4 · Middle: 5 · Master 1: 6 · Presence: 4 · Graphic EQ: Out or Lead-only
Keep Volume 1 low — remember that it darkens and fattens as it rises, so low settings are where the clean stays open. The bass control can go up here because there is no cascading gain to turn it to mush. If your amp has the graphic, assign it Lead-only so it is not colouring the clean.
4. Eighties Session Lead
Volume 1: 5 · Treble: 6 · Bass: 1.5 · Middle: 6 · Lead Drive: 6 · Lead Master: 4 · Presence: 3 · Class A (25W) mode
Graphic EQ: 80 Hz 0 · 240 Hz +2 · 750 Hz +6 · 2.2 kHz +3 · 6.6 kHz +2
Class A mode is the trick here. The compression arrives earlier and softer, the note bloom is more pronounced, and the sustain becomes that liquid singing quality the LA guys were after. Add a touch of the onboard reverb.
5. Thrash Rhythm, Modern
Volume 1: 8 · Treble: 7 · Bass: 1.5 · Middle: 3 · Master 1: 5 · Lead Drive: 6.5 · Lead Master: 3 · Presence: 3 · Full power
Graphic EQ: 80 Hz +5 · 240 Hz −3 · 750 Hz −6 · 2.2 kHz 0 · 6.6 kHz +5
Less scoop at 2.2 kHz than the Hetfield curve, which keeps the pick attack present when you are playing to a modern drum sound rather than a 1986 one.
6. Boosted For Downtuning
Front the amp with a TS9 or TS808: Drive at 0, Tone 5–6, Level 8. Amp as recipe 5, but pull Bass down to 1 and Lead Drive back to 5.5.
The rationale is the same as with any cascading-gain amp: the Tube Screamer rolls off low end and humps the mids before the gain stages, which is precisely what a pre-gain three-band tone stack cannot do cleanly. On a IIC+ with its already-tight bottom, boosting is less mandatory than it is on a Recto — but if you are in drop tunings it stops the low string turning to soup.
7. Blues / Roots Crunch
Volume 1: 6 · Treble: 5 · Bass: 3 · Middle: 6 · Master 1: 5 · Rhythm mode only · Presence: 4 · Class A · Graphic EQ out
People forget the IIC+ has a genuinely good edge-of-breakup voice in Rhythm mode with Volume 1 pushed. Warmer and more compressed than a Deluxe Reverb, tighter than a Vox AC30, and it cleans up off the guitar volume better than the amp’s reputation suggests.
8. Petrucci-Adjacent Lead
Volume 1: 7 · Treble: 6.5 · Bass: 1.5 · Middle: 5.5 · Lead Drive: 7 · Lead Master: 4 · Presence: 4
Graphic EQ: 80 Hz +3 · 240 Hz 0 · 750 Hz −3 · 2.2 kHz +2 · 6.6 kHz +4
A shallower scoop than the metal curve with the upper mids left intact — that is what keeps fast legato lines articulate instead of smearing.
Two of these come directly from Guitar World‘s published IIC+ settings and are as close to primary-source as amp settings get. The rest are starting points built on the circuit’s known behaviour. Note how low the bass control sits in every high-gain setting — that is the pre-gain tone stack doing what it does.
How It Compares
vs Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier
The most instructive comparison in the entire Mesa catalogue, because these two amps are the same company’s answers to opposite questions. The Dual Rectifier is Fender-rejecting, deliberately “modified British,” scooped as its resting state, thick and loose and enormous in the low end. The IIC+ is Fender-derived, mid-forward, tight, articulate, and gets its scoop from a post-gain graphic EQ you can dial out at will. Rectos flatter power chords; IIC+s flatter note definition. If your riff has more than three notes in it, the Mark will let you hear all of them. If you want a wall, take the Recto.
vs Mesa/Boogie Mark III
The direct successor, and the argument that will not die. The Mark III added a second Rhythm mode with more gain — a real feature improvement — but moved to a cheaper printed circuit board and a less formidable power transformer. Many players insist certain Mark III iterations (identified by the marker stripe colour above the power cord) get within a hair of the IIC+ lead tone. IIC+ owners dispute this vigorously. Both camps are somewhat right: the lead voicing is genuinely close, the low-end authority and headroom are not, and the transformer is the reason. A good black-stripe Mark III at a third of the price is one of the best value propositions in vintage amps.
vs Mesa/Boogie Mark IV and Mark V
The Mark IV is the IIC+ concept with three real channels and more features; the Mark V line goes further still, and critically the Mark V and Mark V:25 both include dedicated IIC+ modes that Guitar World rates as sounding “very close to the original.” If you want IIC+ tone plus a Mark I mode plus a crunch mode plus power scaling plus a modern loop, the Mark V is the pragmatic buy and it is not close. What it does not give you is the specific single-purpose commitment of the original — a Mark V is a Swiss Army knife, a IIC+ is a chisel.
vs JP-2C
Covered above but worth restating as a buying comparison: the JP-2C is three independent IIC+-based channels with two assignable graphic EQs, MIDI, CabClone DI and a headphone out. It solves the original’s one genuine design flaw — the shared EQ — and it is not a compromise version. For anyone playing modern progressive or metal with switching requirements, it is arguably a better instrument than the amp it is based on.
vs Marshall JCM800 2203
Mixdown Magazine put these two side by side as the defining rock amps of the eighties, and the pairing is exactly right because they represent opposite philosophies of the same decade. The JCM800 distorts substantially in the output stage, is midrange-dominant, gets its aggression from a bright, raw upper-mid bark, and needs volume to come alive. The IIC+ distorts in the preamp, has more gain on tap than a stock 2203 can dream of, and sounds fully formed at conversation volume. The JCM800 was British thrash; the IIC+ was Bay Area thrash. Play both and you can hear the Atlantic.
vs Soldano SLO-100
Both are cascading-gain American designs from adjacent eras, but the SLO-100 is smoother, more open, more “amp-like” in its overdrive, and considerably more forgiving. The IIC+ is more compressed, more focused, more surgical, and less flattering to sloppy playing. The SLO makes you sound good. The IIC+ makes you sound exact.
vs Peavey 5150
The 5150 arrived in 1992 and did to the nineties what the IIC+ did to the eighties, at a fraction of the price. It is coarser, brasher, less refined and considerably more fun. The IIC+ has better cleans, better dynamics and a far more usable lead voice; the 5150 has more immediate riff-machine gratification and costs a tenth as much used. Neither is a substitute for the other.
vs Digital Modelling
The IIC+ is one of the most thoroughly modelled amplifiers in existence. Neural DSP released an official Mark IIC+ plugin suite in March 2023, developed with Mesa, and it is genuinely close — close enough that it changed the calculus for anyone considering a five-figure vintage purchase for recording purposes. The same voicing appears in the Quad Cortex, and IIC+ models or captures are available on the Axe-Fx III, Helix and Kemper. What the digital versions do not replicate is the physical interaction between a loud SimulClass output stage and a real cabinet in a real room. What they do replicate — the preamp voicing, the EQ curves, the gain structure — is most of what makes a IIC+ sound like a IIC+, precisely because the distortion is preamp-generated.
Buying Guide
Original 1984–85 Examples
Expect to pay: from roughly $5,000 for a basic 60-watt combo without options up past $15,000 for a fully-loaded 100-watt SimulClass head with reverb, graphic EQ and hardwood. Lukather’s Coliseum went for $20,000. As of 2025 these are the highest prices any Mesa/Boogie model commands, and the trend has been one-directional for fifteen years.
Verify the “+” before you pay. This is not optional. The only external marker on an original is a plus sign drawn in black marker on the back of the chassis, which anyone with a Sharpie can forge, and people do. Three checks, in ascending order of reliability:
- Panel legend. A genuine factory IIC+ should read “Pull Deep” above Master 1. A plain IIC reads “Gain Boost.” Caveat: amps built as IICs and returned to the factory for the free “+” upgrade will legitimately still say Gain Boost, so a mismatch is a question, not a verdict.
- The loop test. The well-publicised field test. Plug your guitar into the Return jack of the effects loop, switch to Lead, strike a sustained note, and turn the Lead Drive and Volume 1 controls while it decays. If the note is unaffected — no change in volume or tone — the amp has the “+” lead circuit. This works because the “+” revision moved those controls out of the post-loop path. It takes thirty seconds and it is the single most useful thing you can do in a shop.
- Send it to Mesa. Bendinelli’s era at the bench is why the factory can still verify these definitively. On a five-figure purchase this is cheap insurance.
Read the initials. Below the “+” you will usually find “MB” — Mike Bendinelli, who performed most of the final checks before amps left the building. Occasionally you will see “RCS” for Randall C. Smith himself, who stepped in on final-check duty from time to time. Neither proves authenticity on its own, since they can be forged too, but the handwriting and marker characteristics are part of the overall picture a knowledgeable inspector reads.
Chassis codes. SRG = 60-watt with reverb and graphic. HRG = 100-watt with reverb and graphic. These were the two most-ordered configurations and they are the two that hold value best.
Options matter enormously to price. A base 60-watt combo with no reverb, no graphic and a standard speaker is a different financial object from an HRG SimulClass head in bubinga with a wicker grille. Work out which options are present before you accept a price framed as “a IIC+.”
The 2024 Reissue
At $3,599 for the head, the reissue is the correct answer for the overwhelming majority of players. You get hand-wired construction, the graphic EQ and reverb as standard rather than as five-figure lottery tickets, a warranty, current-production tubes you can actually replace, and no anxiety about a forty-year-old transformer. The honest caveat is Hunter’s: it will sound a little different, because it cannot not. Whether that difference matters to you is a question about your ears and your budget, not about the amplifier.
The Cheaper Routes
- Mark III black stripe — genuinely close lead voicing at a fraction of the money, with the transformer caveat.
- Mark IIB — the immediate predecessor, similar in character, cheaper, though prices have risen in the IIC+’s wake.
- Mark Five:35 or Mark V:25 — modern, small, and includes a IIC+ mode.
- Neural DSP plugin or a modeller — the cheapest path to the voicing by an enormous margin, and for recording it is a completely defensible choice.
Living With One
- The bass control is not a bass control at high gain. It sits pre-gain. Past about 3 in Lead mode you are not adding weight, you are adding mud and losing definition. Every published metal setting for this amp keeps it between 1 and 2. Add your low end back with the graphic EQ at 80 Hz, which sits post-gain and behaves properly.
- Volume 1 is a tone control. It gets darker and fatter clockwise. If your clean sounds woolly, turn Volume 1 down and Master 1 up. If your lead sounds thin, do the reverse. This single interaction accounts for most bad IIC+ sounds you will ever hear.
- Learn the graphic EQ before you touch anything else. Post-gain, three-way assignable, and responsible for roughly all of the amp’s famous voices. Assign it to Lead only if you value your clean tone.
- Accept the shared EQ compromise. There is no configuration in which both modes are optimal. Decide which one is the priority and dial for it.
- The effects loop is genuinely good — improving it was one of the “+” revision’s explicit goals. It is also where Metallica’s Aphex EQ and compressor lived, and where a GE-7 or a rack EQ still does its best work on this amp.
- Class A mode is not just quieter. Different compression, different attack, different bloom. Demo both modes on every setting you build; you will pick differently than you expect.
- Old EVM-12L combos are heavy. Genuinely, back-injury heavy. The EV driver is a wonderful speaker with a famously flat, uncoloured response — which is exactly why the graphic EQ works so well through it — but a loaded hardwood 1×12 IIC+ combo is not a casual carry.
- Service history is the whole ballgame on a vintage unit. Filter caps from 1984 are long past their design life. A recap and a bias check by someone who knows Mark-series amps is a prerequisite, not an upgrade, and it should be priced into what you offer.
- Do not chase Master of Puppets with the amp alone. The rack Aphex EQs and compressor/gates are a real part of that sound, as are EMG pickups and a specific cabinet. Copying the knob positions gets you maybe seventy per cent of the way.
Frequently Asked Questions
Why is the Mark IIC+ so expensive when the Mark IIC and Mark III are not?
Three factors compounding. Scarcity — fewer than 3,000 built in fourteen months. Association — Master of Puppets, plus Prince, plus an entire decade of LA session records. And genuine circuit merit: the extra gain stage, the revoiced preamp and the improved loop produced a lead tone that a lot of very good players independently decided was the best available. Take away any one of those three and the price collapses. All three together produced the most valuable amplifier Mesa has ever made.
How do I tell a real IIC+ from a faked one?
Do the loop test: guitar into the effects loop Return jack, Lead mode, strike a sustained note, and turn Lead Drive and Volume 1 while it rings. If the sustaining note does not change in volume or tone, the “+” lead circuit is present. Also check that Master 1 reads “Pull Deep” rather than “Gain Boost,” bearing in mind that factory-upgraded IICs may legitimately still carry the older legend. For a five-figure purchase, have Mesa verify it.
What is the difference between a IIC+ and a IIC++?
The IIC++ adds one further gain stage to the cascading Lead path and tightens the low end further. Crucially, only the Lead mode is affected — the clean is identical. It originated as a 1985 custom request from Vivian Campbell of Dio, was never a catalogue item, and was performed roughly twenty times in the original era before Bendinelli spent decades doing it on request. Mesa released it as a 200-unit limited production model in July 2025.
Did Metallica record Ride the Lightning with a Mark IIC+?
No. Hetfield has said “since Ride the Lightning on, or at least Master of Puppets for sure,” and the second half of that sentence is the accurate one. Ride the Lightning was recorded in early 1984, when the IIC+ had been in production for weeks and the “++” mod did not yet exist. The Crunch Berries head was acquired around March 1985 and shows up on Master of Puppets and everything after.
Does the 2024 reissue sound like an original?
Close, and honestly so. Mesa spent three years on it and built it hand-wired to the original topology, and Dave Hunter at Vintage Guitar called it “an impressively authentic dose of the IIC+ magic” while explicitly noting that many original components no longer exist and that it therefore “will sound a little different.” At $3,599 against $10,000-plus for a serviced vintage example, it is the rational choice for a player rather than a collector.
Do I need the graphic EQ?
Yes, effectively. It was an option in 1984 but it is standard on the reissue for good reason: it sits post-gain and is responsible for most of the amp’s signature voices, including the entire Boogie “V” curve. A IIC+ without a graphic EQ is a good amp with a shared three-band pre-gain tone stack. A IIC+ with one is the amp people are actually talking about.
Is the Mark IIC+ only good for metal?
Categorically not, and the roster proves it. Prince toured Purple Rain with one. Steve Lukather, Mike Landau and Dean Parks put it on hundreds of pop and rock hit records. Bruce Springsteen used one. The clean mode sits, as Hunter puts it, “largely in the big Fender camp,” and the Lead voice at moderate drive with the mids pushed is one of the great singing session-lead tones of the era. The metal reputation is real but it describes one setting on a wide-range amplifier.
What about the shared EQ — is it a dealbreaker?
It is the amp’s one genuine design limitation and Guitar World flagged it directly. You cannot simultaneously optimise both modes from one three-band stack. In practice players work around it by assigning the graphic EQ to Lead only and using the push/pull shifts to redistribute treble. If it bothers you enough, the JP-2C exists specifically because it bothered John Petrucci enough — three independent channels, two assignable graphic EQs, same core circuit.
Should I buy a Mark III instead?
Seriously consider it. Certain Mark III iterations get remarkably close to the IIC+ lead voice at a fraction of the cost. The real differences are structural rather than tonal: a cheaper printed circuit board and a less capable power transformer, which show up as reduced headroom and looser low-end authority rather than as a different overdrive character. If your budget is fixed and you want Mark-series tone, a well-sorted Mark III leaves money for a decent cabinet.
Is the IIC+ loud enough for a band?
Comfortably. Even the base 60-watt build is more than most stages require, and 100-watt SimulClass examples are extremely loud. More usefully, because the distortion is generated in the preamp rather than the output stage, the amp delivers its full character at low volume — one of the reasons the LA session crowd adopted it so quickly. The 25-watt Class A mode on the reissue makes it viable in genuinely small rooms without losing the voice.